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Author: Jean
    Subject: Making roses on a stick
    Date: Tue Mar 17 20:53:53 1998
    Message:
    Does anyone make their buttercream roses on a sharpened dowel rod. I've been trying to find out how to do it and  cannot find information anywhere. Any suggestions orr directions?
    Also, I;ve hard you can air dry buttercream roses and use them much like royl icing. Anyone have a recipe for this  buttercream and drying directions? Thanks.

Author: Kathy M.
    Subject: Roses On a Stick
    Date: Wed Mar 18 01:29:25 1998
    Message:
    Hi Jean,
    I make all of my roses on sharpened dowel rods, toothpicks and metal skewers (which I prefer). This is the way I  do it: Your buttercream icing or whatever icing you're using should be moderately stiff, hold your rose tip, narrow  end up and pipe a wrap around the tip of your stick (picture a shawl wrapped around a small doll criss-crossed in  the front), twist the stick as you pipe.
    Next, pipe two overlapping petals to form a bud. Make sure these petals the same highth as the center wrap,   keeping the rose tip straight up and down with wide end up.
    Now pipe a row of three overlapping petals. Tilt the tip slightly away from the stick. The petals should be just a   little lower that the bud.
    Tilt the next row of 5 petals slightly away from the stick even more than the previous row. These petals should be   a little lower also than the previous row.
    When you finish piping your rose, lift the rose off of the stick with a pair of scissors, I find the scissors with sharp   pointed blades work best, also tweezers work well.
    This is the only way I can do roses, the nail doesn't work for me. Everyone must find what technique works for  them.     Kathy M.

Author: Carolyn
    Subject: Roses
    Date: Tue Mar 17 23:32:19 1998
    Message:
    I can't give you tips on making roses on a stick or on toothpicks. I never had much success with that, but know  other people who do - perhaps it is in the icing?
    I make buttercream roses quite often and air dry them. I use the same buttercream that I use for icing my cakes or  borders or anything. They will air dry overnight enough to handle carefully. For easier handling - 2 or 3 days  should be sufficient. Other people put some meringue powder in their icing, but I've never thought it made enough  difference to warrant putting it in. The only problem with buttercream is that it will go rancid in 3 weeks or so  whereas royal icing flowers won't. Most any flower can be made with buttercream and air dried.

Author: Carolyn
    Subject: ICES Scholarships
    Date: Tue Mar 17 00:01:39 1998
    Message:
    Sometime ago, some of you e-mailed me about ICES scholarships and at the time, I was snowed under with  getting ready for the ICES Midyear in Kansas City. I apologize for being tardy. However, I believe January 1 was  the deadline to have the scholarship applications in for this year's consideration. You may want to write and get an application and start thinking about next year so you will have plenty of time to apply. The ICES board member  in charge of scholarships is: Randy Coffing and her address is: 6423 Quemado Dr. N.E., Albuquerque, New  Mexico 87109-3862 or call 505-823-1829 or fax 505-856-5001.   Good luck to all of you.

Author: Shannon
    Subject: Re: ICES Scholarships
    Date: Tue Mar 17 03:29:34 1998
    Message:
    Hi, I've only been a member of ICES for about six months now and am not very familiar with their scholarships.
    Where are they scholarships to? Culinary schools? Wilton sponsored classes? I'm interested in finding out more  about this.    Thanks :o)    Shannon

Author: Carolyn
    Subject: ICES Scholarships
    Date: Tue Mar 17 10:28:10 1998
    Message:
    You do NOT have to be an ICES member to get one of the scholarships.
    You may give your preference of what class you would like to take and where. It might be a Wilton class or a  class given by one of the foreign teachers when she has a class in the states or one of the accredited schools like  McCall's or Nicholas Lodge's. They prefer that the class be taken within a year from the time the scholarship is  given.
    They will send you a form to fill out asking many questions such as what class you'd like to take or a preferred  teacher. What can it hurt to try???

Author: connie
    Subject: photographs on cakes
    Date: Mon Mar 16 23:59:42 1998
    Message:
    I just recieved a request to put a photograph on a cake for a 50th wedding anniversary, and I have never done this before,what kind of material would you use to cover and protect the photo ? Any information would be helpful.

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: photographs on cakes
    Date: Tue Mar 17 02:18:03 1998
    Message:
    hi connie; i have done this several times. it is a simple matter of wrapping the pic in plastic wrap (saran, etc). you  could mount in on sugar cubes w/just a touch of royal icing in each corner to further protect it.
    another way i have done it is after wrapping it, attach toothpicks (one or more depending on size of photo) and   stand it up. once made a 'this is your life' cake for someone who did not celebrate birthdays but was turning 40  and having a hard time handling it so parents gave her the 'life' party:) put some dz pics (of her from babyhood  thru recent) on a cake about 5 feet long (3 loaf cakes end to end). the toothpicks can be glued or taped on or even  attached w/dot or two of royal since pic is already protected w/plastic.   lynne

Author: Rebecca
    Subject: photograph on cake
    Date: Tue Mar 17 00:19:10 1998
    Message:
    Hi! I don't know how you would go about putting the photo *on* the cake, but one of my aunts put a photo *under*  a cake one time. She did a tiered cake, and on the underside of the bottom tier's cake plate, she taped a picture of  the couple (my grandparents). The bottom tier was sitting on pillars and there was a mirror in the middle of the  pillars so that the photo could be seen in the mirror. Does this make any sense?? :)    Rebecca

Author: Author Janie
    Subject: Photographs on cakes
    Date: Tue Mar 17 02:36:25 1998
    Message:
    Connie...Put the photograph in a plastic bag,and tape it. Than put that on your cake,put border around it.Do the rest  of your design Ihope this helps you .Janie

Author: Author Janie
    Subject: Photographs on cakes
    Date: Tue Mar 17 02:49:59 1998
    Message:
    Connie...Put the photograph in a plastic bag,and   tape it. Than put that on your cake,put border
    around it.Do the rest of your design Ihope this  helps you .Janie

Author: Kathy M
    Subject: picture on cake
    Date: Tue Mar 17 11:00:01 1998
    Message:
    Connie, the way I do it is, place the picture on a piece of cardboard, cover the picture on cardboard with  celephane, then place on the cake and pipe a border around it like a frame. Then I add a couple of small  sweetheart roses and leafs in the corner of the frame. As a special touch, I dust frame and flowers with edible  white glitter. This gives it a porcelain like look.    Hope this helps.    Kath M.

Author: Renee V
    Subject: Tinned steel chocolate molds
    Date: Mon Mar 16 14:47:42 1998
    Message:
    Hi Gang,
    My ever thoughtful, creative husband gave me three unusual old-fashioned tinned-steel chocolate molds for my  birthday. One is a realistic looking pig lying down, the 2nd is a sucker mold of a rabbit in a waistcoat riding a  rocking-pig, as opposed to a rocking-horse and the last one is the best! It is a rather largish 3D elephant in full  india-type regalia of blanket saddle and head piece - quite detailed. Since these molds are inflexable, does the  chocolate release easily? Also the elephant mold has 3 metal clips for each side and the bottom where the feet  are, is open. I'd like to make it hollow (or semi-solid, as Godiva is fond of saying LOL) because it is large. Any  tips on how to do this would be much appreciated. Thanks! Can't wait to use them! Renee

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: Tinned steel chocolate molds
    Date: Mon Mar 16 21:44:59 1998
    Message:
    oh what a treasure you got there! :)
    there should be no problem getting the molded choco out of these.......just let them sit at room temp a few hrs. if    there is any sticking, just pop them into the frig for 5 minutes.
    as for the elephant: for hollow items just fill w/choco about 1/3 to 1/2 full; cover the opening w/something solid,    turn completely over a couple of times and let sit about 10-20 minutes. durring this sitting time turn over 2 or 3    times; now pour out any choco that is still liquid and let it sit to harden completely same as above. remove clips    and ease off 1/2's.
    if you do have any problems w/sticking following the above you may need to wash the mold w/warm mild soapy    water and rinse well, then of course dry completely before using. this has worked for me on *plastic* molds. have    not had to do it on the 2 metal molds i have:) maybe someone else will have more advise.    lynne

Author: Renee V
    Subject: Icing using granulated sugar
    Date: Mon Mar 16 14:29:53 1998
    Message:
    Hi All,
    I have a great recipe for an icing which uses granulated sugar and butter and vanilla whipped until light and fluffy.
    Then you add a mixture of melted chocolate, flour, and milk
    which was previously cooked to a thick pudding-like consistency and cooled. Then beat to a whipped cream-like  texture. I love the taste and texture of this icing. It is not too sweet and can be used for boarders and drop-flowers  and leaves. It is too soft for elaborate decorations, however.
    Here is my problem. Sometimes, but not all the time, the icing is grainy from the granulated sugar. I made it this    weekend and beat it sooo long to get rid of the granules that it started to get soft and break down a bit so I had to    stop and it was still grainy. Any ideas on how to solve this problem? It always happens to some degree, but worse    sometimes than others. I've tried using 10x sugar, but that changes the charater of the icing too much and makes it    too sweet. Do you think superfine sugar would desolve? I'd hate to give this one up. Also, it has a nice whipped    texture that might be appealing to clients looking for something like "bettercream" although not as lightweight.
    Thanks for the input. Renee
    P.S.
    This recipe is very versetile because you can use semi, milk or white chocolate. It can be a real time saver too,    because colored candy melts will give the icing a really pale, pretty color and white chocolate flavor. Also color    is consistant if you always use the same brand candy.

Author: Renee V
    Subject: Whipped chocolate Buttercream
    Date: Tue Mar 17 08:56:01 1998
    Message:
    Hi All,
    I'll post the recipe for this on the new messege board, under RECIPES. Hope you'll all try it and maybe you can  help solve the problem! :) Renee

Author: Leah
    Subject: Teacher's Retirement
    Date: Mon Mar 16 13:56:35 1998
    Message:
    My mother has been teaching science for 37 years and is retiring this year. My sisters and I have decided to give  her a retirement party and I have been designated to make the cake. It has to feed at least 150 people. Does anyone  have any ideas other than a "wedding" type stacked cake? I thought about a sheet cake decorated like a  chalkboard, but I'm not sure about that. Plus, I haven't been doing this long enough to probably make it look real.   Any advise is welcomed!!     Thanks :o)

Author: Jennifer
    Subject: teacher's retirement
    Date: Mon Mar 16 15:01:27 1998
    Message:
    Tiered cakes aren't just for weddings! They are for any occasion that is special enough to deserve a special cake.
    You could do a two-layer sheet, or stack a couple of sheets, either one or two layers, to get the number of  servings. How about depicting her doing some of the things she enjoys, like gardening, traveling, relaxing on the  beach, whatever. You could figure pipe or draw different things around the sides or edges, and use a new twist on  the old saying "No more pencils, no more books, no more STUDENTS' dirty looks!"

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: Teacher's Retirement
    Date: Mon Mar 16 21:55:50 1998
    Message:
    jennifer is right.....tiered cakes do not have to be wedding-ee!
    to serve that many i'm picturing a 16", 12" and 6 or 8" round tiers. they could be stacked or pillared or a  combination. re: stack the two lower ones and pillar the top. make apples and pencils from thickened buttercream  or fondant or gumpaste. also mini chalk boards to put on the sides of the tiers. figure pipe some monkeys too:) or  make science items. can't think at the moment what that would be:)
   i have pics and directions on how to make a chalk board cake if we have time i could send you a copy. it serve  quite a few, but don't know until i look it up what. as i remember is used like a 1/2 sheet topped w/a quarter sheet.    lynne

Author: Dolores
    Subject: Re: Teacher's Retirement
    Date: Tue Mar 17 14:50:13 1998
    Message:
    Lynne and Jennifer gave good suggestions.
    We went through this cake design back when this board was new also. You will fing it in the very last Archive I  think. If you have netscape, just open that archive and click on EDIT at the top of your screen. Then choose 'Find   in page...'    You can jump right to it this way. Good luck.

Author: Trish Long
    Subject: Candy question
    Date: Mon Mar 16 12:15:10 1998
    Message:
    Hi everyone,
    Can someone tell me the best way to store candy for Easter? I'm new to candy making and I know chocolate can  get old tasting, is it too early to make Easter candy and it taste fresh? Some fillings call for butter should that  candy be refrigerated?     Thanks,    Trish

Author: Dolores
    Subject: Re: Candy question
    Date: Tue Mar 17 08:20:34 1998
    Message:
    I wouldn't store it in the fridge. Chocolate has a tendancy to take on any odors around. And can ruin the candy.
    Store it in a cool place only. Wrapped and sealed tightly. Butter won't get rancid for at least a month or more. A  lot depends on whether you can store it in a coolor place than the average home temp...on how far ahead to make it.

Author: Carolyn
    Subject: Copyrighted Things at Craft Shows
    Date: Mon Mar 16 10:34:21 1998
    Message:
    I was just at a craft show over the weekend and noticed lots of things made from Precious Momemts, Disney, etc.
    I have noticed this many times in the past, too. They are really in the public eye. I asked one lady once about how  they could do that since it was copyrighted. She just shrugged her shoulders. I think the key is in the advertising  and calling attention to the fact that you are selling cakes, not the home decorator who sells only a few and doesn't  advertise. I also think someone doing it in the big city would be more apt to draw attention than someone out in ten  buck two miles from nowhere. We should obey the laws, but let's not scare people to death on this issue or they  will be afraid to do cakes at all.

Author: Dolores
    Subject: Re: Copyrighted Things at Craft Shows
    Date: Mon Mar 16 10:48:58 1998
    Message:
    Weellll, if those lawyers ever figure out they can make a little extra money catching people at craft shows, it won't  end up much fun - then.
    The bottom line is, its dishonest to infringe on someone else's copyrights in the first place. I sure wouldn't like it if  someone started selling my =wedding cake book with THEIR name as the author = same difference entirely!

Author: Jeannine
    Subject: petal cakes
    Date: Mon Mar 16 08:33:18 1998
    Message:
    My sister is getting married this summer and I am doing the wedding cake for her. She would really like to use the  petal shaped cakes but I am having a terrible time icing them. I can't get all of the petals to ice evenly and it ends  up looking like a sloppily iced round cake. I've tried using the quick icer tip and still had trouble. Anyone have  any suggestions or hints? Thanks.

Author: MaraTLee
    Subject: Re: icing petal shaped cakes
    Date: Mon Mar 16 09:40:53 1998
    Message:
    Hi,
    Well, my first suggestion, you've already tried,( using the cake icer tip) so I will try to help you the best way I can.    Try~~ thinning~~ down your icing a bit ( a little more water, a touch of white corn syrup, whatever you like),
    Using a turntable also helps in coating the cake evenly.Fist you will use your spatula to cover your cake with your  frosting, And if you haven't been using an off-set spatula, try using it, holding one of the sides at a 45 degree angle  on the cake to scrape off the excess icing. ( you must keep the spatula touching the icing but do not use so much  pressure that you are scraping great gobs of icing off) ease off on the pressure when you get into the "v" part of the  pan.--You will do fine. Take it nice and easy. If you are using the Wilton crisco recipe, as soon as the cake has  crusted a bit--(sort of dry to the touch) you can smooth the spatula marks by placing parchment paper on top and  rubbing with your hand, (or the edge of your spatula) It's just a matter of practicing to get it all nice and smooth. :).
    If all else fails you can purchase a Cake comb--(I sure that Dee, has them if you can't find them)--I recommend the  "Ateco cake comb" it's small and made of metal, using it in the same manner that you would be using the spatula  -hold it at 45 degrees against a freshly iced cake , turn the cake so the comb scrapes the sides. If you place the   comb with one of the points touching the board or turntable it will give you even and steady lines. Then you can   drop your swags and do your top and bottom borders with some nice little accents where the tops of your swags   meet the top border. It's quite a "busy" look but it's reminicent of the ornate, victorian look that a lot of brides like.   I hope that this will help. You can e-mail Dolores if you still have trouble or need to order any of the items I   wrote about.

Author: MaraTLee
    Subject: Ano. idea
    Date: Mon Mar 16 09:56:44 1998
    Message:
    Oh, I just remembered what I used to do with these pans, I had a lot of trouble with them at first too--( I kept on   scraping icing out of the "v" shapes and you could always see the cake--LOL)***-----So, what I did was this: I   would place the petal cake on a large round board or cake plate and at the very bottom of the "V" I would place a   large flower and make them smaller as I went up finishing with buds, put some nice ruffly leaves to frame it all   (and hold it in place!) It is a very pretty look, still one of my favorites, and with at tip 2 I would make some   decorative tendrils reaching out from my little upside down triangular arrangement. *** If this is what is   happening to you, load up your spatula with icing, scrape it off on the cake right at the "v"and then spread it out   from the "v" shape, Plese let me know how your cake turns out.Mara

Author: Jennifer
    Subject: petal shapes
    Date: Mon Mar 16 11:06:57 1998
    Message:
    Those petal shapes can be quite a pain, can't they? Sounds like you're having the same problem I do, the icings    tends to accumulate in the indentions, so it ends up looking almost round. I have also tried the quck-icer without    much luck. The only advice I can give is practice, practice, practice! I've done two petal cakes, one a couple of    years ago, and one recently. The one I just did was still difficult, but turned out better than the previous one. Doing    a crumb coat helped alot; the first time I had to work the icing so much to restore the petal shape, I got it full of    crumbs. Don't expect it to be as smooth as a simple round, at least not until you have lots of practice. You can    camoflage the imperfections by not leaving too much open space, covering it with something simple like swiss    dots or Queen Anne's lace. You can see the petal cakes I've done on my webpage (http://members.aol.com/swtcreatns/index.html). The one on the first page is the most recent. Good Luck!

Author: Shannon
    Subject: Re: petal cakes
    Date: Mon Mar 16 13:16:58 1998
    Message:
    These can be a real pain, but, they're so pretty when they turn out right. The first thing I do, like Jennifer, is put a    crumb coating on. I don't usually fool with a crumb coating but for the petal shaped pan it usually works better if I do it. Then I take my cake icer tip and ice each petal shape INDIVIDUALLY. I'll start in the groove and ice one    petal and then let off the pressure and touch the tip to the groove. This helps you to see exactly where each groove    is. If you REALLY want to get exact you might want to, at this point, stick toothpicks in the top of the cake that    mark where each groove is. You can just smooth over the toothpick holes or cover them with your top border    when your done.Next, after I get all of the icing on with the cake icer tip, I take my angled spatula and smooth the    icing over going in one direction around the cake. After I get that fairly smooth I take my plactic scraper    (rectangular scraper, they also make metal scrapers) and on each petal shape I put the edge of my scraper in the    groove and smooth the petal out to the center of the petal. I hope that last part made sense. I start at one groove and    smooth the peal to the center (left to right) then go to the next groove to the right and smooth the rest of that petal    (right to left) then repeat it all the way around the cake this gives you nice definate grooves. You can go around    after that and smooth it like usual. I hope this made sense. If there's something I didn't explain very well just post   me a message back or e-mail me. :o)     Good Luck!    Shannon

Author: Amy
    Subject: cake clipart
    Date: Sun Mar 15 23:36:30 1998
    Message:
    Does anyone know where I can find some cake and candy related clipart?    Amy

Author: Dolores
    Subject: Re: cake clipart
    Date: Mon Mar 16 10:15:43 1998
    Message:
    I have one link on LINKS...a man's name. This is all I've found...something ELSE I need to add to my web site  LOL
    But for pictures FOR putting on cakes, I found more for Print Artist than any other graphics program. They even  off some add-ons. My favorite program for making cards, etc. cheap too...and SO easy. Dolores

Author: kelly
    Subject: black velvet cake recipe
    Date: Sun Mar 15 21:10:48 1998
    Message:
    1 6oz.package semi-sweet choc.morsels
    21/4c. sifted flour
    1 tsp. soda
    3/4 tsp. salt
    13/4c sugar
    3/4c softened butter or marg
    1tsp. vanilla
    3 eggs
    combine chocolate, 1/4c water in sauce pan, stir over low heat till melted and smooth
    sift flour, salt, and soda together and set aside
    combine sugar, butter and vanilla in bowl and beat till blended well
    add eggs 1 at a time beating well after each addition
    blend in melted chocolate mixture
    stir in flour mixture alternating with 1c water
    pour batter into 2 greased and flooured 9" cake pans and bake on 375 for 30-35 min.
    FROSTING
    1 6OZ.package of semi-sweet chocolate morsels
    3 TBLS butter or marg
    1/4c milk
    1 tsp. vanilla
    1/4 tsp.salt
    3c. sifted powdered sugar

    melt chocolate and butter over hot, not boiling water remove from heat
    add milk, vanilla, salt and mix till well blended
    beat in sugar gradually  fill and frost cake
    chopped walnuts to garnish if desired.
    hope this one works for you and i hope it wasn't too late, sorry it took so long, let me here how it turned out

Author: michelle
Subject: panoramic eggs
Date: Sun Mar 15 21:08:41 1998
 Message:
    I'm trying to make panoramic easter eggs, I need all the information and pictures I can get, and if anyone has a good book or some great decorating ideas I could use those also. Thanks. good luck, kelly

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: panoramic eggs
    Date: Sun Mar 15 22:54:13 1998
    Message:
    have you checked out the egg and instructions on dolores pg? i believe it is under special techniques.    lynne

Author: Renee V
    Subject: re: panoramic eggs
    Date: Tue Mar 17 10:19:23 1998
    Message:
    Hi Michelle,
    This month's American Cake Decorating Magazine has a fairly detailed article with some good ideas for  panoramic eggs.    Renee

Author: Jennifer
    Subject: copyrighted characters
    Date: Sun Mar 15 18:49:36 1998
    Message:
    Not a dumb question, at all. This area can be pretty confusing. If a character is copyrighted, it is illegal to   reproduce it in ANY form for PROFIT. This includes shaped cakes, whether using the pans or carved yourself,  drawing in icing, molding in plastic, whatever. Remember, Wilton is geared more for the hobbyist decorator  making things for their family and friends for fun, not for the professional who is selling cakes for profit. You have  to keep this in mind when looking at designs in the yearbooks. Also, more and more, the ideas shown in the  yearbook are designed strictly to sell as many Wilton products as possible. That's why in the latest yearbook most  of the designs use copyrighted character pans, figures, candles, etc. If you have a business license you can by licensed figurines from wholesale suppliers that are legal to put on a cake for sale. If you don't, then you can let the customer purchase them, then you can design the cake for them to place them on. Edible Images are also  another legal option. Hope that clears it up a little.

Author: ZAra
    Subject: Re:Character Copyrights
    Date: Sun Mar 15 20:04:32 1998
    Message:
    OK now I'm confused about something why is it alright to sell an edible image of say "Barbie" but you can't use the Barbie shaped Pan. Isn't Barbie-Barbie regardless of the way you present her? AHHHHHHHHHH HELP I'm sOOOOO confused. (lol)
    I am wondering if you can contact a copyright attorney to contact companies for the approval to sell the shaped cakes versus the boring old sheet cakes with the edible images on them. : )

Author: Jeffery Arnett
    Subject: WHat's the difference between using a pan vs an edible imag
    Date: Sun Mar 15 22:12:26 1998
    Message:
    Hi Zara,
    The difference is simple:
    When you buy a shaped character pan, you pay for it one time and could bake a thousand cakes in it without ever  paying the owner of the image any royalty. But if you use an edible images, you must purchase one for each cake  you make and the owner gets a royalty from the sale of each edible image. This is the difference.

Author: Zara
    Subject: Jeffery
    Date: Mon Mar 16 00:22:41 1998
    Message:
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, Thank You, I get it know, couldn't I just contact the company and pay  them a % of the cake sale, for royalty, I don't want to rip off anyone, I just want to give my customers what they  want. :)

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: Jeffery
    Date: Mon Mar 16 13:48:13 1998
    Message:
    zara; hon, do you have millions of $$ :) license fees are outragiously high. you're trying to deal w/a mega million  $$ company that does not understand you only want to make 3 or 4 cakes a month. they think everybody will flock  to your door and you will make millions off their 'property'.    lynne

Author: SONYA
    Subject: DUMB ? ABOUT CHARACTERS
    Date: Sun Mar 15 18:03:10 1998
    Message:
    Hello, Please bear in mind I'm very new at this, but will someone please explain this character thing again. I read  all reponses to the pan debate earlier and my question is it the character pan or the character? If I freehand a  mickey mouse or a Pooh on a cake, cupcake, or cookie can I not sell it? Is It against the law?? What about all the  things found in the Wilton Yearbooks that have to do with Disney, etc.  oh yeah, thanks Stephanie for the TIP!!

Author: Jeffery Arnett
    Subject: The "CHARACTER" questions [not dumb at all!]
    Date: Sun Mar 15 18:57:23 1998
    Message:
    Hi Sonya,
    It is the IMAGE that is copyrighted. Even if you free hand draw a licensed character then SELL that cake, it is  illegal becuase you DO NOT own the rights to that image.
    The stuff WIlton sells is inteded for home use, not retail sale. If you buy a Winnie the Pooh pan, bake it for your  childs birthday, you have done nothing wrong...you bought the rights to do that when you bought the cake pan. If  you by a Winnie the Pooh pan, bake a cake in it and SELL that cake, you have brokent the law. It doesn't matter if  you get caught or not and I would venture that few people will every be prosecuted for such, but it is still a violation of the law and, if you choose to make and sell such cakes, please keep this in mind. Many decorators  have made character cakes for many years without a problem, but who's to say who might be the first "example"  made by the law. Hope this helps [and doesn;t start another fight in the process].

Author: Dana
    Subject: Another angle
    Date: Mon Mar 16 08:04:10 1998
    Message:
    Jeff is completely correct on this subject, but may I also give you something else to think about regarding this  issue? We, as decorators, want to be respected for the hard work and quality that we put into our craft. We strive  to make our cakes known as something special and unique. The people who created these characters for Disney  and others worked very hard themselves creating something recognized and beloved around the world. We should  have the integrity to respect their efforts and talents and not begrudge any compensation that they receive for this work even without threat of legal action. :-)

Author: Jaynne
    Subject: How thin should buttercream be?
    Date: Sun Mar 15 13:53:39 1998
    Message:
    I am fairly new to cake decorating, but I have been working very hard to learn and am making good progress. My  goal is to be able to make my daughter's wedding cake this August.
    I have been smoothing my cakes using the hot knife technique. I heat the spatula in hot water, dry, then smooth. I  don;t wet the icing because someone told me it would crust really heavy.
   I do a good job on the sides, but when I smooth the top, I can never get it even. I tried using the paper towel  method, but didn;t like the result of that either.
    Someone suggested that maybe I don;t have my icibg thin enough? How this should it be? I'm afraid to get it so thin  that it drops on the cake or falls off.
    Any suggestions will be most helpful. I love the information I find here and thank all of you who are so generous to take time helping the beginners like me.

Author: lynne
    Subject: Re: How thin should buttercream be?
    Date: Sun Mar 15 18:23:48 1998
    Message:
    hi there; what a wonderful labor of love you plan....you're daughters wedding cake. that's how i started this  awsome venture.
    you don't say what recipe you are using, but if you use wilton's class buttercream recipe you will see the 3  different consistencies. just in case you don't have that recipe here it is:
    1 teaspoon vanilla
    2 tablespoons water
    1 cup solid vegetable shortening (crisco)
    1 pound confectioneres' sugar
    combine all ingredients, blending on medium speed until smooth. scrape bowl. blend an additional couple of  minutes until creamy.
    this makes stiff consistency. to thin for borders and flowers add one tablespoon of water and beat until smooth.
    that level is medium consistency.
    for thin consistency add another two tablespoons liquid to the full recipe above.
    thin consistency is used for icing your cakes, writing and making stems and leaves.
    i know this isn't the best tasting icing around, but for practice and knowing how each consistency should be please  do try it.
    i even thin mind just a bit more.....adding a total of 1 tablespoon vanilla for covering my cakes. and add a pinch of  salt -- up to 1/4 tsp.    lynne

Author: Renee V
    Subject: Thinned buttercream
    Date: Tue Mar 17 09:57:57 1998
    Message:
    Hi!
    I found that when I first started decorating that it helped to add Wilton's recomended corn syrup for easier  spreading and evening. I don't remember the exact amount, but it is not much and doesn't really affect the taste. The  corn syrup has a certain amount of elasticity that is "forgiving" and doesn't thin the icing as much as water does.
    Check a Wilton yearbook in the center section on recipes and technique for the amount needed per cup of icing.
    Don't fret, when you have more experience, you won't need to add the corn syrup, but it does help beginners! I  think it is great that you are doing your daughter's cake! I just did my sister's in December. It is a labor of love and it is great to be able to share it with family. Renee



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